I just wanted to let you guys know that when I was responding to your posts I wasn't venting at you guys. I think everyone here welcomes your posts. And frankly (really no pun attended) to speak of God here is a comforting thing for me. If I offended anyone of you guys. Forgive me. It was not at all meant to be personal. Going back and reading I think it could have been or mistaken to be personal. I hope you would not stay away because of my responses. It wasn't you at all. It was a place where I could vent outward to others that may be using God and the Word in a way that is wrong and against one person. I just needed to get that off my chest. I hope you get this message.
Hi Para, it's absolutely okay. I respect any kind of faith and I can imagine, that it would be helpful for someone, who belives in god and lost a beloved person, to express the hope, this person (in this case Andrea) now lives in heaven. I wish you were right with this, really, but - to speak just for myself - I don't have this faith in god or any kind of living after death. For me it's just one possibility, and I cannot say that I believe in it more than in the possibility, that anything is over after our death. It's very difficult for me to point out exactly what I mean in English, but I hope you understand. I didn't want to attack you in any way for your faith or your lovely words about Andrea and that you have the feeling, that her spirit is still with you. Even though I cannot really believe in it, I do hope, that she lives in a lovely place now, and I also think, that it's a good thing, when others like you believe in it.
I just didn't like the way, Yorch wrote about his faith and claimed to speak for anyone, but that is also okay after I read his answer. I just had much work do do in the last months, and I also had to stay in bed because of the flu for the last two weaks, that's the only reason, why I was away from this forum for some time.
Hi Frank, are you German? Your English sounds a little bit like mine. As well - btw - as your thoughts about God. As far as I know Andrea was free minded like the both of us as well. I once asked her: "Do you believe in God?" She replied: "No, why should I?" When we were talking about religious issues about two months before she died I told her: "If I'd believe in God, she would be young, sexy and beautiful. And she would look like you!"
I think if the Romans wouldn't have been so successfull in spreading the believes of a former small Jewish Sect around Europe, Christians wouldn't exist and the same people who call themselves Christians today would believe in something different. Religious convictions are the result of blind chance. But they are not bad, unless they lead to intolerance, crusades, holy wars, inquisition or any other religious violence. As Andrea would have said: just live and let live!
Hi Chris, yes, I'm from germany, from a small town near Mönchengladbach. It's strange, after all the religios discussions that took place here, I was thinking about asking you on Andreas faith, because I remember, that you wrote someting about her don't believing in god on the main page of pics & models some months ago. It was just a small comment and I was not sure, if my memory was right at this point, but your reply gives me an answer to this, before I even asked.
I like Andrea's answer to your question "No, why should I?", even though it may be some kind of shock to some people who read it here. I hope, that does not change the way, anyone thinks about her.
Maybe some people have problems to understand, why Andrea sometimes went to church without believing in god. I just can tell, that it's the same with me. On some special days like christmas I sometimes went to church with my familiy, to do them a favour and because I like it to be together with them. When I was a small child, my father once took me to church on christmas evening and after a few minutes there I had to leave and vomit outside the building, that's a true story. Just like Damian from "The Omen", even though I didn't knew the film at this time at all. But since I grew up, it's my free decision to go there with my family every few years, because I know, that it means a lot to them. It's not a religious issue at all, it's just a family issue, I enjoy the feeling of togetherness. Maybe Andrea felt in a similiar way, when she went to church with her family at christmas, I can imagine.
Hi Frank, according to the wishes of a couple visitors and posters I've changed the settings of this forum, but now I am at a differnet PC and I don't know my password, so I have to log in as anonymous.
I don't know how often Andrea went to church. Probably she and I have spoken about that, but I didn't write everything down and I don't want to say something untrue. But of course in general there are many reasons besides believing in God why you may go to church. One of the reasons of "low quality" is that you just go there because other people go there too, and because you are afraid that they will look at you askance.
Just today I had a little talk with a colleague of mine. He came up with an interesting idea: in case you are a spiritual person (he is) you can go to church even if you don't believe in God. Just because a place where many people go to pray becomes a special place because of that. It becomes a place with a special atmosphere that provokes and supports spirituality. I don't know. But I thought it was a nice comment.
