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VicL

Date: Mar 20, 2006

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For visitors who wonder why on a specially-created and unique Tribute Forum "in loving memory" of Lea De Mae, there are some permitted to repeatedly post up idiotic and malevolent messages under various names (and who have already driven Lea's sister away and maybe others) without impediment or sanction of any kind, please see: http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=39098&subForumID=81322&action=viewTopic&commentID=3992591&topicPage=2 and http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=39098&subForumID=81322&action=viewTopic&commentID=5506090&topicPage= __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 20, 2006

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...and please also see my posting today (20th March 2006) at the popular French Forum "XXL" at the reference below for some further comments on the mischief poster involved,... http://www.xxlfrance.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=286&start=45 __________________

A previous plea

Date: Mar 21, 2006

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This was a previous plea I made to exorcise this malevolent presence from this Tribute Site specially created "in loving memory" of Lea De Mae.... Abuse postings Dear Chris, When the owner of this Site was contacted (I believe by Mikey who donated several thousand dollars to the Medical Appeal for Lea in Sept/Oct 2004) to release this Site www.LeaDeMae.com to Lea's devoted friends, it could not have been intended that this would be used as an "Abusers' Playground". It is no wonder that Lea's sister Lucie no longer visits here. I have seen postings by people (or perhaps they're all the same person?) calling Lea a dead whore and slut and other insulting terms, also Monica Sweetheart has likewise been insulted. There is no logging-in procedure here and no e-mail addresses are given and the hitherto acceptance of these reprehensible postings is merely encouraging further mischief and abuse. This site has as its introduction "IN LOVING MEMORY" - if you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing, most people might consider more appropriate. When you attend a funeral service, the mourners gather in the appointed place and the priest or rabbi usually gives a speech in recognition of the life of the departed one, and often the mourners come away consoled by the uplifting words spoken. You would think it inappropriate if all sorts of malevolent persons came and spoke at the services saying how badly they thought of the deceased person and how they disliked him or her and that they should rot in hell! Yet, isn't this what has is happening here? In loving memory of Lea De Mae. "And Lea was her name, I never knew her but I loved her just the same" __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 21, 2006

CLOSE THE FORUM please.	Permalink

Dear Chris, I was very grateful to Mikey from the USA as I believe he not only donated $3,000 to Lea's Medical Appeal (jointly made by Oldrich Widman and Lucie Absolonova) but also got this Web Site for you in order to create a living tribute to the loving memory our beloved Lea De Mae. As we have seen with growing consternation, the Site you carefully created has been abused, and re-abused again and again almost with impunity. It has become a www.LeaDeMadhouse I ask two things, 1) Will you please give me editing facilities so that I can remove all the malicious and highly offensive postings as I have done once at CSS when the Site was invaded by a supposed "Mr Marcus" the ex-lover of Silvia Saint (in that case, it was an impostor) and simply leave all the normal tribute postings as one would expect. If one attended a Remembrance Service, the audience would not expect a parade of speakers hurling insult after insult after the departed loved one! Then, the Forum can be closed. 2) Please close the "Condolences" Forum before that also succumbs to abuse. If you do not wish me to remove these spiteful and malicious postings, please appoint someone else in whom you have trust to do this job, but then please close the Forum forever. You previously wrote that we should simply ignore the malicious poster(s). If someone daubs your house with hateful writings and adds to them daily without any sanctions or law invoked against them, would anyone just stand by and allow them to carry on without a care in the world? This was a Tribute Site "IN LOVING MEMORY" and it has now been used by one party (using several names) and possibly another person as if it was some kind of "HATE" Site. Lea, Lucie, Monica Sweetheart have so far been grossly insulted here. We are expected to stand by and say or do nothing about this? This would try the patience of a Saint! Please act promptly. Thank you for all you have done for the Forum, but this malicious abuse cannot be tolerated - this is not "free speech" to be defended at all costs. This is pure mischief and malevolence which is being fed by inaction. Kind regards, Vic, London. 21-3-2006. PS. Friends and admirers of Lea De Mae will find me at the CSS Forum and on XXL France as usual. C.c. Miss Monica Sweetheart, Los Angeles. __________________

someone who cares

Date: Mar 21, 2006

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Vic, With all due respect. We should not close this forum down. Although some of the posts have become quite disturbing we should not shun everyone else out of here because of such stupidity. This site is still in remembrance of Lea De Mae. Regardless of what some write. I think maybe some of these postings are out of jealousy? Some out of spite. But we cannot allow it to shut it down. This forum has been here from the days when Lea was in the hospital and even before. I am sure there are still people who would like to go back and read these. As well as post their own comments. Please do not get me wrong. I understand you asking this. But another anology would be if someone defaced a national monument in England would they tear it down? Of course not. Another thing is with these wrongful postings come very positive posts defending Lea. Why would anyone believe one person over five, ten, fifteen, people? And to erase these post, people who do not know or are new will have no ideas on what was going on. Unfortunatley it sounds like you have fallen victim to these people and want to give them the ultimate victory by shutting this forum down. I ask of you to rethink this. Also, is it possible that if you were having troubles elsewhere with diffrent postings, maybe after all the attention you gave them they may have came here? To bother you? Even when warranted most of the gripe comes from you Vic. These people could see that and continue to persuade you to gripe. Which just gives them more fuel. Not only here but elsewhere you gripe about it. Lea De Mae does not deserve these slanderous words at all. But she also deserves a place to be remembered through out the world. And this is that place. __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 21, 2006

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Thanks, although I presume you have not just appeared today on the scene? I asked not for the Site but for the (abused) Forum and Condolences Book to be closed down. It is 15 months since Lea died. Most who would wish to say a few words of condolences or post up a message in honour of Lea will likely have already done this by now. Indeed, no other artist in the history of porn has ever received such support and warm feelings from fans worldwide. Condolences Books are normally left open for a while. I do not wish to see it defaced. The many postings I have put up recently - the most current ones on ClubSilviaSaint, XXL France and on here are interview and show pictures - are to provide a further insight to Lea's movie career. Have you attended a friend or family member's funeral yet? Think if you would like the remembrance service and speeches visited by Tom and any name he hides behind? I am not interested in pleasing "gripers" from other Sites that you mention. I am interested to ensure that what is currently a publicly avaliable space on Lea's Tribute Site should not be repeatedly degraded and used as a malicious name-changing prankster's playground. I stand by every word that I have written. __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 21, 2006

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This is not the first time abuse postings have given rise to concern. Please note the previous comments two months ago (typed in bold below) from myself and four other members about my previous request to delete these highly offensive and malicious postings, which would not be allowed to sully any other similar Site, where they would have rules of posting. Furthermore other Sites are not normally dedicated "In Loving Memory"... Name: Victor Date: Jan 19 Views: 228 Quote \| ReplyTime to clear the decks? Dear Chris, I think it's time to clear the decks of all this rubbish on here. This is not "freedom of speech" - this is offensive and senseless abuse. It sickens me to have to see these topic headlines every time I visit here on a Site that was created in honour of Lea De Mae to be used by those who admired and respected her. If you are too busy to do this, then please give me "editing facilities" for a few days and I will sort it out. Regards, Victor, London. (CSS Forum) PS. There is a registration and log-in requirement at CSS and anonymous postings are not accepted. Name: Adam Date: Jan 20 Views: 219 Quote \| ReplyRE: Time to clear the decks? I agree with Victor fully. The freedom of speech doesn't mean acceptance for the loutishness. Name: Pio Date: Jan 20 Views: 215 Quote \| ReplyRE: Time to clear the decks? Let me add my voice to the ones above. There 's a lot of places on the web for illminded people to visit. Let this site return to be the only thing it was intended for: to keep alive stronger than ever the sweetest memory of a wonderfull unforgettable unlucky creature ! Name: Vic Date: Jan 25 Views: 143 Quote \| ReplyRE: Time to clear the decks? Please can you remove the "Biography" posting too, as requested in the topic. The author is also making very hurtful and offensive comments about Lea's best friend Monica who let us see all the special photos from her personal collection and also gave me permission to make special versions for CSS (framed) etc. *Is this the way to thank Monica by insulting her on a site dedicated to the "Loving Memory"* of her dear friend, Lea De Mae? Name: VicL Date: Feb 27 Views: 75 Quote \| ReplyTime to clear the decks? Below are two comments from French fans of Lea's about the abuse/insulting postings on here,... dpmaniac Inscrit le: 26 Déc 2004 Messages: 1583 Localisation: Liège Posté le: Lun Fév 27, 2006 5:49 pm Sujet du message: Dear Victor, I've read some posts on Lea's Forum : http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=39098&subForumID=81322 I can't understand how people can be so stupid to write such bulls about Lea. They are only miserable wimp who only dare write unkind words behind their nickname, behind their computer to a dead pornstar. I don't understand them. I can't understand the behaviour of these guys who are supposed to be adult. I'm really upset ! These "users" should be desactivated. Regards. _________________ http://www.lacochonne.be/index.php?cat=10004 DpManiac / Jesus Christ Revenir en haut Eastgodess Inscrit le: 04 Déc 2004 Messages: 2370 Posté le: Lun Fév 27, 2006 6:16 pm Sujet du message: These posts must be erased !!** _________________ Mike __________________

Para

Date: Mar 22, 2006

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I will agree that the condolence page could be locked from any other posters. Yet could still be viewed. There has been pleanty of time to do condolences. Any more condolences could be made in the forum if need be. It would be ashame that someone would disgrace this. __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 23, 2006

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Thanks for all your writings and efforts, Para and other admirers of Lea De Mae. I hope this Forum will one day be restored and made fit again for the purposes for which it was created, namely for the friends, admirers and well-wishers of Lea/Andrea to support her struggle and then later, after her death, to honour her memory. I do not consider the Forum is presently being used in accordance with these principles. The malevolent abuse postings displayed are an outrage and disgrace and steps have still not been taken to discourage such latest abuse. This Forum is entitled "IN LOVING MEMORY" not "I Spit On Your Grave!" - why then are malicious posters allowed a free hand here? I cannot add anything to what I have written above and in previous postings. cc. Monica Sweetheart, Los Angeles. __________________

Para

Date: Mar 23, 2006

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I have noticed one thing. And that is, "when" these negative posts are being put up. There is a certain timing to these posts. Does anyone else see a pattern here? __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 27, 2006

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Dear Friends & Admirers of Lea/Andrea, I have today received a personal message from Lea's best friend, the much-loved international star Monica Sweetheart of Los Angeles and Prague. Monica is clearly upset by what has been happening of late, as you will see below. Monica writes today:- ----- Original Message ----- From: Monica Sweetheart To: varme3@tiscali.co.uk Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: Re: Emailing: forum.htm Hi Victor..Thank you for what you do.. I agree with you on everything you wrote.. That person is SICK.. We don't need to read this.. I really hope Chris will understand! Best regards! __________________

PARA

Date: Mar 27, 2006

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Vic, I am wondering. Is this why Monica does not post here? What and why is that deal? I think if she posted once in a while it would make this place more interesting. Who doesn't agree? And it would also be a plus too look what is happening here herself. That way you wouldn't have to email her every post. The site is titled "In Loving Memory". I would like to think her best friend would do all she could to help this site. I for one am still waiting for an update that supposedly required some of her input. But I am not nagging about it. Since you have contact with her, maybe you can find out what is holding up the update? Is it because of the "sick" post from the idiotics? Or is it something else? __________________

Vic

Date: Mar 27, 2006

This tribute site	Permalink

Dear Para, As far as I know, Monica has never regularly posted on any site, if at all. Besides which, Monica is not Katja Kassin, who is ready to have a go at any insulters and give back as good as she gets. But in any case why come on here to be insulted given the current way this site is allowed to be abused with impunity? I can assure you that there is no other bona fide site that would permit this conduct. Regards, Vic. London 28-3-2006 __________________

Para

Date: Mar 28, 2006

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Victor, I do not know who posted using my name. But that was not me that posted about Monica. If I wanted to know something from or about her I would email her. I never have questioned how often or even if she comes to this site. I guess how would I know if it was or wasn't her? With all of us using screen names for the most part. I do agree her posting now and then would make it a little more interesting. But as part of this forum we should all be a little responsible for that. That is why I suggested a organized chat. As far as the other sites go. I have seen plenty of negative comments on other sites. Probably not on the blogs or forums you go too. But it is quite common to find negative post on other sites. I do not want to defend or condone these negative post on here. And I certainly do not want to give them the satisfaction of letting them know I am having a problem with their post. I am not and will not be influenced by them. I am however, influenced by the kind and generous words by so many. I think we need many more to be posted. __________________